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+From: David Bremner <david@tethera.net>\r
+To: Tomi Ollila <tomi.ollila@iki.fi>, notmuch@notmuchmail.org\r
+Subject: Re: [PATCH] notmuch-emacs-mua: do not start emacs daemon w/o\r
+ --create-frame\r
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+Date: Sun, 02 Aug 2015 12:23:00 +0200\r
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+Tomi Ollila <tomi.ollila@iki.fi> writes:\r
+\r
+> notmuch-emacs-mua --client used to start daemon process if it was\r
+> not running -- just that no emacs mail window of any kind from\r
+> that is visible to the user.\r
+>\r
+> When not starting emacs server in this case notmuch-emacs-mua\r
+> user will get the same message as would emacsclient user\r
+> have, which should be enough for such user to understand how\r
+> to proceed starting emacs server in a way that it is useable\r
+> for this purpose.\r
+\r
+I'm not a big fan of overloading arguments, i.e. if the daemon isn't\r
+automatically started for all uses of --client, I'd rather there was\r
+another argument like --auto-daemon so that there are at least 4 ways of\r
+invoking\r
+\r
+| n-e-m | start a new emacs instance, and kill it after |\r
+| n-e-m --client | like emacsclient |\r
+| n-e-m --client --create-frame | like emacsclient -c, destroy after send |\r
+| n-e-m --client --create-frame --auto-daemon | like emacsclient -c -a, destroy after send |\r
+\r
+Since there are probably only 3 users, this should be sufficient ;).\r