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+From: Jameson Graef Rollins <jrollins@finestructure.net>\r
+To: David Bremner <david@tethera.net>, Jani Nikula <jani@nikula.org>,\r
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+Subject: Re: WARNING: database upgrade coming\r
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+On Mon, Mar 17 2014, David Bremner <david@tethera.net> wrote:\r
+> Jani Nikula <jani@nikula.org> writes:\r
+>> FWIW it should always be safe to interrupt the upgrade; I know we don't\r
+>> inform the user about this.\r
+>\r
+> With that in mind, would it be reasonable/worthwhile to print a 5 second (or so)\r
+> countdown before running the upgrade? But then people who run it\r
+> non-interactively would still automagically get the upgrade, just 5\r
+> seconds later.\r
+\r
+My vote would be that anything invasive like this should be done with an\r
+explicit "OK" from the user. In otherwords, when a database upgrade is\r
+due, non-interactive usage of notmuch new should fail until the user has\r
+run notmuch new interactively and acknowledged that a db upgrade will be\r
+happening and that they're ok with it.\r
+\r
+jamie.\r
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