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+From: Austin Clements <amdragon@MIT.EDU>\r
+To: David Bremner <david@tethera.net>\r
+Subject: Re: [PATCH] emacs: remove hardcoded defaults values from docstrings\r
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+Quoth David Bremner on Jun 04 at 8:37 am:\r
+> Tomi Ollila <tomi.ollila@iki.fi> writes:\r
+> \r
+> > On Tue, Jun 04 2013, Austin Clements <amdragon@MIT.EDU> wrote:\r
+> >\r
+> >> I realize this already got pushed, but to me this seems like a\r
+> >> reversion for the 95% of users who haven't customized\r
+> >> notmuch-archive-tags and just want to know that archiving means\r
+> >> removing the inbox tag. Why is this less confusing? Users who have\r
+> >> customized notmuch-archive-tags will probably know that the "default"\r
+> >> doesn't apply to them.\r
+> \r
+> As a side note, this kind of thing is why I started a texinfo manual; I\r
+> don't really think reading docstrings is the best intro for a new user.\r
+> \r
+> > Can we have both -- i.e. something like (default: "-inbox") in the \r
+> > docstring. When entering c-h f notmuch-show-archive-thread\r
+> > The `notmuch-archive-tags' in text is a hyperlink to the documentation\r
+> > of notmuch-archive-tags (which shows its current value)...\r
+> \r
+> I don't really mind Tomi's suggestion, although in practice I think\r
+> following the hyperlink is also not so burdensome. I mainly didn't like\r
+> the places it mentioned "inbox" without mentioning the variable that\r
+> really controls it.\r
+\r
+Right. I think we should both reference the variable and say what the\r
+default behavior is (there's no reason not to do both). But isn't\r
+that what these docstrings used to do?\r
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