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+From: Tomi Ollila <tomi.ollila@iki.fi>\r
+To: David Bremner <david@tethera.net>, notmuch@notmuchmail.org\r
+Subject: Re: [PATCH] test/emacs: replace the use of process-attributes with\r
+ kill(1)\r
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+On Sat, Jan 11 2014, David Bremner <david@tethera.net> wrote:\r
+\r
+> In some environments (at least Hurd), process-attributes is\r
+> unimplimented and always returns nil. This ends up causing test\r
+> failures (see e.g. id:87a9ffofsc.fsf@zancas.localnet).\r
+>\r
+> According to POSIX 1003.1-2001, a signal of 0 can be used to check the\r
+> validity of a pid. This seems less heinous than parsing the output of ps(1).\r
+> ---\r
+\r
+This has been pretty portable method long before 2001 :D\r
+\r
+You could replace the call-process with\r
+\r
+(signal-process pid 0)\r
+\r
+Tomi\r
+\r
+>\r
+> I'm not sure if it would be worthwhile, but a point release could\r
+> finally get notmuch compiling on Hurd again. At least the test in the parent message does pass on Hurd with this patch\r
+>\r
+> test/test-lib.el | 15 +++++++++------\r
+> 1 file changed, 9 insertions(+), 6 deletions(-)\r
+>\r
+> diff --git a/test/test-lib.el b/test/test-lib.el\r
+> index d26b49f..93f5f72 100644\r
+> --- a/test/test-lib.el\r
+> +++ b/test/test-lib.el\r
+> @@ -77,19 +77,22 @@ invisible text."\r
+> (setq start next-pos)))\r
+> str))\r
+> \r
+> +;; process-attributes is not defined everywhere, so define an\r
+> +;; alternate way to test if a process still exists.\r
+> +\r
+> +(defun test-process-running (pid)\r
+> + (= 0\r
+> + (call-process "kill" nil nil nil "-0" (int-to-string pid))))\r
+> +\r
+> (defun orphan-watchdog-check (pid)\r
+> "Periodically check that the process with id PID is still\r
+> running, quit if it terminated."\r
+> - (if (not (process-attributes pid))\r
+> + (if (not (test-process-running pid))\r
+> (kill-emacs)))\r
+> \r
+> (defun orphan-watchdog (pid)\r
+> "Initiate orphan watchdog check."\r
+> - ; If process-attributes returns nil right away, that probably means\r
+> - ; it is unimplimented. So we delay two minutes before killing emacs.\r
+> - (if (process-attributes pid)\r
+> - (run-at-time 60 60 'orphan-watchdog-check pid)\r
+> - (run-at-time 120 60 'orphan-watchdog-check pid)))\r
+> + (run-at-time 60 60 'orphan-watchdog-check pid))\r
+> \r
+> (defun hook-counter (hook)\r
+> "Count how many times a hook is called. Increments\r
+> -- \r
+> 1.8.5.2\r
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