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+Subject: Re: [notmuch] Quick thoughts on a notmuch daemon\r
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+also sprach Carl Worth <cworth@cworth.org> [2009.12.08.2001 +1300]:\r
+> One concept in notmuch (compared to sup) is to (eventually) avoid people\r
+> having to go through that pain by their current mail client becoming\r
+> "notmuch enabled". For me, I had always liked composing email in emacs,\r
+> so I just have to add notmuch support to the existing emacs\r
+> message-mode.\r
+>=20\r
+> Hopefully people working on other email interfaces will do similar\r
+> things, (would be great to have Anjal and Thunderbird get some notmuch\r
+> support for example).\r
+>=20\r
+> I definitely didn't like that with sup, to get all the global-search and\r
+> tagging features one had to accept the curses UI as well.\r
+\r
+I am a bit late to the party, but re: this thread [0], I would\r
+suggest to go the way of a fuse filesystem. That's effectively\r
+a daemon, but one which also bridges a chasm between notmuch and all\r
+kinds of existing mail tools, including IMAP servers, by way of the\r
+standard filesystem interface.\r
+\r
+0. http://notmuchmail.org/pipermail/notmuch/2009/000782.html\r
+\r
+I don't want to harp on this too much right now for I have not yet\r
+fully understood notmuch, but the basic idea would be that you'd\r
+have ~/mail provided by notmuch-fuse-daemon, and there'd be a tool\r
+like notmuch-fuse-cli with which you can add virtual folders, e.g.\r
+\r
+ notmuch-fuse-cli new debianmail 'from:debian OR to:debian'\r
+\r
+and that would create ~/mail/debianmail with mode 555 (since you\r
+cannot write the results of a search) containing a Maildir with all\r
+messages matching the query.\r
+\r
+The benefit of this would be that I could use mutt, evolution, or an\r
+IMAP server, or vi and shell tools to manipulate my mail without any\r
+modifications to those tools.\r
+\r
+There could be a separate hierarchy for tags, e.g. ~/mail/TAGS/foo\r
+and ~/mail/TAGS/bar/baz matching on explicit tags (and maybe\r
+~/mail/TAGS/notmuch with mode 555 for implicit tags). Writing mail\r
+to those directories effectively adds tags, unlinking removes them.\r
+~/mail/TAGS/UNTAGGED holds untagged mail for easier reference.\r
+\r
+In addition to all of this, fuse could be used to index new messages\r
+directly as they are delivered into ~/mail, rather than running\r
+'notmuch new' regularly.\r
+\r
+These ideas are not new, and I've written about them before:\r
+\r
+http://madduck.net/blog/2007.07.24:a-user-space-filesystem-for-mail-labelin=\r
+g/\r
+\r
+notmuch seems an excellent base for implementing such a filesystem.\r
+I will try to make time before LCA to get up to speed on fuse, then\r
+maybe Carl and Micah and I (and whoever else will be in Wellington)\r
+can hack this up in a few hours and over a few beers.\r
+\r
+If this resonates, or you want to work on this too, let's hear from\r
+you!\r
+\r
+--=20\r
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