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+Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2016 12:36:11 +0200\r
+From: Vladimir Marek <Vladimir.Marek@oracle.com>\r
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+ <raphael@raphaelfournier.net>\r
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+Subject: Re: Avoiding the "huge INBOX of death"\r
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+I can't speak for everyone, but here's what I am using.\r
+\r
+I do have 'messages' directory which contains 'imap' and 'archive'.\r
+\r
+messages\r
+ \-imap\r
+ \-archive\r
+\r
+The imap directory is being synchronized via offlineimap to the server.\r
+\r
+In the offlineimap postsync hook I call a script which does some\r
+bookkeeping on the newly received messages and it also marks old and\r
+already read and not flagged emails by the 'old-tread' tag.\r
+\r
+N=notmuch\r
+while : ; do\r
+ AGE=100d # 100 days\r
+ # Find all threads containing old messages\r
+ OLD_MESSAGES=$( $N search --output=threads not tag:archive and date:..$AGE and not tag:unread and not tag:flagged )\r
+ [ -n "$OLD_MESSAGES" ] || break\r
+ # Find threads containing newer messages\r
+ NEW_MESSAGES=$( $N search --output=threads not tag:archive and not '(' date:..$AGE or tag:unread or tag:flagged ')' )\r
+ # remove the threads containing newer messages\r
+ OLD_THREADS=$( /usr/xpg4/bin/fgrep -v -x -f <(echo "$NEW_MESSAGES") < <(echo "$OLD_MESSAGES") )\r
+ [ -n "$OLD_THREADS" ] || break\r
+ $N tag +old-thread -- $OLD_THREADS\r
+ break\r
+done\r
+\r
+# If old thread received newer message, unmark it too\r
+$N tag -old-thread -- tag:old-thread and '(' not date:..$AGE or tag:unread or tag:flagged or tag:archive ')'\r
+\r
+\r
+Once in a while I review the old-thread messages and assign them by hand\r
+'archive' flag. The postsync hook is looking for this flag and moves all\r
+messages to be archived into archive folder. You can list files to be\r
+archived by\r
+\r
+$N search --output=files 'path:imap/**' tag:archive\r
+\r
+I won't list the commands to move files from messages/imap to\r
+messages/archive since I have a bit more complex scenario. But it should\r
+be straightforward.\r
+\r
+On next run offlineimap sees that the messages disappeared from 'imap'\r
+folder and removes them from imap server.\r
+\r
+$ notmuch count '*'\r
+734346\r
+$ notmuch count 'path:imap/**'\r
+18419\r
+\r
+\r
+In my case I am server side filtering the emails into several folders so\r
+that I have at least some order in emails when reading email via phone,\r
+so 'path:imap/**' contains all the messages in whole imap tree.\r
+\r
+$ notmuch count 'path:imap/** and tag:inbox and tag:unread'\r
+11\r
+\r
+I'm trying to have my virtual INBOX empty most of the time.\r
+\r
+I'm interested what tricks others use!\r
+Cheers\r
+-- \r
+ Vlad\r