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+From: Tomi Ollila <tomi.ollila@iki.fi>\r
+To: Carl Worth <cworth@cworth.org>, David Bremner <david@tethera.net>,\r
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+Subject: Re: elisp + company completion patches, v7\r
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+On Mon, Oct 26 2015, Carl Worth <cworth@cworth.org> wrote:\r
+\r
+> On Sun, Oct 25 2015, Tomi Ollila wrote:\r
+>> I, if this does not sound nitpicking, would amend those 'This patch' and\r
+>> 'With this patch' texts in commit messages away by some rewording -- those\r
+>> pose as a bad example for someone reading the code -- and diminish the\r
+>> effect when I complain that again in future patched ;)\r
+>\r
+> What's the motivation here?\r
+>\r
+> It's often the case that a good commit message needs to describe the way\r
+> things were working prior to a commit, (describing the bug or missing\r
+> feature or what have you), and also needs to describe the change that is\r
+> affected by the commit itself.\r
+>\r
+> So I actually like seeing commit messages that say things like:\r
+>\r
+> Prior to this commit... (some bug existed...)\r
+>\r
+> In this commit... (some code is reworked to fix the bug...)\r
+>\r
+> But maybe I've missed the point of your message.\r
+>\r
+>\r
+> -Carl\r
+\r
+Probably the missing point is the fine distinction between \r
+'this patch' and 'this commit'\r
+\r
+While we do sets of changes and then that leads to commit series the final\r
+step of running 'git format-patch' somehow leads people writing commit\r
+message to add words 'this patch' to the message...\r
+... or (what just come into my mind) they just think these changes as\r
+patches (is that linux-kernel influence ?)\r
+\r
+To me the commit history does not look like series of patches (but series\r
+of commits or changes -- and changes are usually shown as "diffs") --\r
+patching gives a connotation of fixing something (with glue or gum ;)\r
+\r
+That is how I see it. That doesn't mean I am right there (and in this mailing\r
+list I've been wrong in statistically significant amount (*) of times).\r
+\r
+Un{less,til} decided otherwise I'll continue with delicate efforts to\r
+keep this style issue in the minds of developers; despite (**) informing\r
+me that will be doomed...\r
+\r
+Tomi\r
+\r
+(*) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statistical_significance\r
+(**) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wiio%27s_laws\r