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+Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2014 08:44:46 -0700\r
+From: "W. Trevor King" <wking@tremily.us>\r
+To: Carl Worth <cworth@cworth.org>\r
+Subject: Re: Thanks for the nmbug-status program\r
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+On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 11:01:09PM -0700, Carl Worth wrote:\r
+> W. Trevor King writes:\r
+> >> > I think that making nmbug and nmbug-status generally applicable\r
+> >> > for other projects is a good target. I don't see any need to\r
+> >> > pull them out into a stand-alone project to do that though.\r
+> >>=20\r
+> >> For what it's worth, I don't disagree.\r
+> >\r
+> > Does that mean your patches are aimed upstream at the notmuch\r
+> > repository?\r
+>=20\r
+> I didn't really intend them that way. What I meant was that I'd be\r
+> happy to switch to a script within the notmuch repository if it did\r
+> what I wanted, (which is basically just "create an HTML file from a\r
+> notmuch query").\r
+\r
+So, =E2=80=9Chere's a goal to shoot for, and I'm happy with my fork. If\r
+someone else wants to land patches like these upstream, I'm also happy\r
+dropping my fork.=E2=80=9D ;). I think it would be easier to just mail your\r
+patches to the list and see what sticks.\r
+\r
+> > (or their shell's approriate environment variable syntax), and I'd\r
+> > version the config file in the same repo as the associated tags. I\r
+> > don't see the point of keeping the config file somewhere else, when\r
+> > you'll already need a repository to store the tags.\r
+>\r
+> Ah, then you've missed something different about my usage. I don't\r
+> have any repository storing tags. My tags exist only in my notmuch\r
+> database.\r
+\r
+I had missed that, thanks for clarifying. I still like the\r
+config-from-repository-branch functionality because nmbug tag\r
+repositories are part of the nmbug-status ecosystem, but I agree that\r
+you shouldn't need a tag repository if you don't want to collaborate\r
+on tag maintenance.\r
+\r
+> > * d456390 Add a comment describing the program\r
+> >\r
+> > I like the idea, but I'd prefer a docstring just after the leading\r
+> > comment. Then we could reuse the docstring as the description for\r
+> > the ArgumentParser.\r
+>=20\r
+> Sure. That's better.\r
+\r
+Would you like to write that up?\r
+\r
+> > * 336411f Add "notmuch search" to the advertised queries.\r
+> >\r
+> > Folks can already copy-paste the terms into Emacs etc. You only\r
+> > need the 'notmuch search' prefix if you're pasting into a shell,\r
+> > in which case you'll also want to escape shell-sensitive\r
+> > characters like parenthesis. I'm fine without this one.\r
+>=20\r
+> This is more about advertising notmuch to people not familiar with\r
+> it. It's more important for something like "mesa stable queue" than\r
+> it is for the notmuch bug list, of course.\r
+\r
+That makes sense, but I'd prefer something like:\r
+\r
+ <p>This view is generated from the following\r
+ <a href=3D"http://notmuchmail.org/searching/">Notmuch query</a>:\r
+ </p>\r
+ <p>\r
+ <code>\r
+ view['query-string']\r
+ </code>\r
+ </p>\r
+\r
+That name-drops Notmuch without implying that the whole thing is\r
+copy-pastable into a shell. Neither your queries [1] nor our\r
+nmbug-status queries [2] use parens at the moment, but the current\r
+master's example config does [3].\r
+\r
+> > * 396869c Add support for a --query option (along with a default config=\r
+uration)\r
+> >\r
+> > I don't have an opinion about this one ;). The default config doesn't\r
+> > look very useful (especially with it's dummy metadata settings), but\r
+> > I'd only be using the in-Git-config approach, and I don't mind if\r
+> > others want something like this.\r
+>=20\r
+> This is about making this script self-documenting.\r
+>=20\r
+> When I first tried nmbug-status I got just a stack trace[*], not even a\r
+> usage message.\r
+\r
+Heh, that should probably be fixed ;). There's a nice example config\r
+at devel/nmbug/status-config.json, but something that's bound more\r
+tightly to the script itself seems useful.\r
+\r
+> Even after running "nmbug-status --help" I wasn't any closer to\r
+> knowing how to run the thing. It wasn't obvious that --config was\r
+> the option I needed to get things to work, (from the stack trace,\r
+> clearly this script wants some git repository somewhere), and even\r
+> if I had know that --config was what I wanted, I had no idea how to\r
+> construct a config file.\r
+\r
+I hadn't understood that your built-in config was more of a\r
+teaser/seed for new users, it makes more sense in that light. I'd\r
+prefer a clearer error message when we can't find a config file (I'm\r
+working up a patch now ;), and documentation for the config file\r
+format in 'nmbug-status --help' (where it's clearly static assistence\r
+for unfamiliar users).\r
+\r
+Cheers,\r
+Trevor\r
+\r
+[1]: http://cworth.org/~cworth/mesa-stable-queue/\r
+[2]: http://nmbug.tethera.net/status/\r
+[3]: http://git.notmuchmail.org/git/notmuch/blob/40dc79d6ac828bc24ae1ec797a=\r
+a50e53fc455621:/devel/nmbug/status-config.json#l65\r
+\r
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