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+From: Jameson Rollins <jrollins@finestructure.net>\r
+To: Carl Worth <cworth@cworth.org>, David Bremner <bremner@unb.ca>,\r
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+Subject: Re: bug tracking\r
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+Hi, Carl. Thanks for the reply on this issue. Please permit me counter\r
+with a couple points.\r
+\r
+On Mon, 26 Apr 2010 11:31:05 -0700, Carl Worth <cworth@cworth.org> wrote:\r
+> It seems to me that almost all issues of interest are already raised on\r
+> this mailing list, and later followed up with a message from me, (along\r
+> the lines of "thanks, this is pushed"). So I'd be happy with a system\r
+> that relied on an email interface as well.\r
+\r
+Issues are raised on the mailing list, because there's no where else to\r
+raise them (other than irc, where they're not actually logged). But\r
+there's currently no way to track issues. We can't tell if they've been\r
+dealt with, and we have no way of browsing through them. Folks who send\r
+issues to the list have no feedback that their issue has even been\r
+acknowledged.\r
+\r
+Saying that issues sent to the list are usually followed by a "thanks,\r
+pushed" implies that only issues that include patches are acknowledged.\r
+While I certainly appreciate that this is a Free software project and\r
+that users should be encouraged to contribute, I don't think it's wise\r
+to imply that "only issues with patches will be acknowledged". I think\r
+that all users should be encouraged to report issues, even those that\r
+are not capable or currently able to supply patches.\r
+\r
+> What I don't want is something that would make me go push buttons in a\r
+> web form in addition to the "git push" and sending of email that I'm\r
+> already doing.\r
+\r
+I agree that purely web-based solutions are crappy. But many now\r
+include email interfaces as well. In any event, this is why I was\r
+suggesting one of the new distributed issue trackers that can live\r
+inside the repo of the source code and integrate well with our/your\r
+current workflow. I just haven't used any of them to be able to vouch\r
+for them.\r
+\r
+> My primary metric for adopting a new issue tracker is "how little extra\r
+> work will I have to do to use this compared to what I'm already\r
+> doing?". That's a lot more important to me than how the system stores\r
+> its data.\r
+\r
+I don't think I agree that that's the right question to ask. We're\r
+currently not tracking issues at, particularly ones not accompanied by\r
+patches, so I claim that we have to do something different. Doing\r
+nothing at all leaves us with a continued problem.\r
+\r
+Anyway, thanks for the discussion.\r
+\r
+jamie.\r
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