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+Subject: Re: Understanding the "replied" tag\r
+From: Xu Wang <xuwang762@gmail.com>\r
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+On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 2:39 PM, Xu Wang <xuwang762@gmail.com> wrote:\r
+> On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 2:25 PM, Jani Nikula <jani@nikula.org> wrote:\r
+>> On Thu, 11 Jun 2015, Xu Wang <xuwang762@gmail.com> wrote:\r
+>>> Dear all,\r
+>>>\r
+>>> First, I am extremely excited to be a part of this list now. notmuch\r
+>>> has really helped me. Thank you go all individuals working to improve\r
+>>> it and to help others to know how to use it.\r
+>>>\r
+>>> I would really like to know if a message has been replied to (e.g.\r
+>>> using a certain message id). It seems that all I need to do is check\r
+>>> for the "replied" tag. But often this tag is not there, even when\r
+>>> there has been a reply (I have confirmed this through the thread\r
+>>> display and checking the message that replied to the message to make\r
+>>> sure it indeed has header "replied-to:<MSG-ID>").\r
+>>>\r
+>>> I have looked in mutt, and also I see many situations where there is\r
+>>> no 'r' flag, especially for emails sent from me.\r
+>>>\r
+>>> The following returns true:\r
+>>> notmuch config get maildir.synchronize_flags\r
+>>>\r
+>>> So at least both are giving same answer, but I'm not sure why not\r
+>>> saying "replied" thread is correct.\r
+>>>\r
+>>> What is incorrect for my way of thinking about "replied"? Do I\r
+>>> misunderstand what it is supposed to do or am I not updating the flags\r
+>>> correctly?\r
+>>\r
+>> Notmuch deals with the "replied" tag in two ways.\r
+>>\r
+>> First, the tag is synchronized with the maildir flag R, both ways. This\r
+>> is the "R" in the filename after ":2,". See [1] for details.\r
+>>\r
+>> Second, the notmuch-emacs interface adds the "replied" tag upon sending\r
+>> the reply. You can customize this tag, but note that only "replied" gets\r
+>> synchronized to maildir flags.\r
+>>\r
+>> If you use a MUA that doesn't either add the R flag or call notmuch to\r
+>> add the "replied" tag, you'll lose this bit of information.\r
+>>\r
+>> You might also find [2] relevant.\r
+>>\r
+>> BR,\r
+>> Jani.\r
+>>\r
+>>\r
+>> [1] http://cr.yp.to/proto/maildir.html\r
+>> [2] http://notmuchmail.org/special-tags/\r
+>\r
+> Thank you so much, Jani. This is very informative to me. I think I\r
+> have a good understanding now of what is going on.\r
+>\r
+> My question then is this:\r
+>\r
+> I trust notmuch more than mutt, because notmuch is aware of threads\r
+> and all mail boxes. Also note that I often use gmail web interface to\r
+> reply emails.\r
+>\r
+> Am I correct in the following: if notmuch wanted to, when I run\r
+> "notmuch new", notmuch has the information that it could\r
+> (theoretically) update and correct all of the "replied" tags. Is that\r
+> correct? If so, my next question is: why doesn't it do that?\r
+>\r
+> I think I'm close to getting notmuch intution on its goals.\r
+>\r
+> Kind regards,\r
+\r
+The following message is in response to Suvayu (I am now finally\r
+subscribed to the list so I will have no future problem):\r
+\r
+Thank you. The problem in the end is that I would like 'notmuch new'\r
+to not only schronize the 'reply' tag but to master handle the reply\r
+tag because notmuch knows which messages have been replied to (because\r
+it is aware of threads).\r
+\r
+Kind regards,\r
+\r
+Xu\r
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