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+From: Eric <eric@deptj.eu>\r
+Subject: Re: Breaking a really long thread\r
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+On Sat, 02 Apr 2016 06:56:12 -0700, David Mazieres <dm-list-email-notmuch@scs.stanford.edu> wrote:\r
+> David Bremner <david@tethera.net> writes:\r
+> \r
+>> David Mazieres <dm-list-email-notmuch@scs.stanford.edu> writes:\r
+>>\r
+>>> Is there any way to break an existing thread (so as to start over with a\r
+>>> smaller thread), or otherwise to tweak the threading rules so that a\r
+>>> particular References header gets ignored.\r
+>>\r
+>> Currently there is no way to do this, as threads are "stateless"\r
+>> i.e. created on the fly by _notmuch_create_thread based only on\r
+>> immutable mail data.\r
+> \r
+> Thanks.\r
+> \r
+>>> It's annoyingly slow to open\r
+>>> a thread with 10,000 messages just to read one SMS. I'm almost tempted\r
+>>> to mangle the messages on delivery and remove the References header\r
+>>> before notmuch sees them, but it would be nice to have a cleaner\r
+>>> solution, as there are other situations in which one might want to\r
+>>> "reset" a really long thread.\r
+>>\r
+>> Like this thread ;).\r
+> \r
+> Oops, sorry for the irrelevant thread inclusion. I guess emacs adds the\r
+> References header after a message is sent is sent? In my setup, the\r
+> easiest way to post to a mailing list is to reply to an existing message\r
+> (since I subscribe to each list under a different email address). I\r
+> tried to start a new thread by deleting the In-Reply-To and header which\r
+> was all I saw, but I guess the References header got inserted later...\r
+\r
+Neither notmuch emacs nor any other email client has any business\r
+inserting a References header after the user "presses Send". On a new\r
+message it shouldn't exist unless inserted manually, and on a reply it\r
+should come from the replied-to message (and be changed) before you start\r
+"replying". More likely that (if you didn't miss it) it was not shown\r
+to you although it existed - that would count as a bug in my opinion\r
+(I don't use emacs for anything, not even notmuch).\r
+\r
+Actually the message you replied to has no References header, but notmuch\r
+reply (command line) to it generates both References and In-Reply-To\r
+(same content). I assume notmuch emacs does the same. I don't believe\r
+that References should be generated in this situation, its only use\r
+would be by a threading algorithm that doesn't use In-Reply-To, and I\r
+would consider that a bug in said algorithm.\r
+\r
+Actually I think there should be a "reply as new" option which uses\r
+the other message but does not add either In-Reply-To or References\r
+(and does not carry the latter forward if it exists).\r
+\r
+Eric\r
+-- \r
+ms fnd in a lbry\r
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