--- /dev/null
+Return-Path: <amdragon@mit.edu>\r
+X-Original-To: notmuch@notmuchmail.org\r
+Delivered-To: notmuch@notmuchmail.org\r
+Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1])\r
+ by olra.theworths.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1368F431FAF\r
+ for <notmuch@notmuchmail.org>; Thu, 12 Sep 2013 07:53:43 -0700 (PDT)\r
+X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at olra.theworths.org\r
+X-Spam-Flag: NO\r
+X-Spam-Score: -0.7\r
+X-Spam-Level: \r
+X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.7 tagged_above=-999 required=5\r
+ tests=[RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7] autolearn=disabled\r
+Received: from olra.theworths.org ([127.0.0.1])\r
+ by localhost (olra.theworths.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024)\r
+ with ESMTP id 161IcCx4ucWD for <notmuch@notmuchmail.org>;\r
+ Thu, 12 Sep 2013 07:53:35 -0700 (PDT)\r
+Received: from dmz-mailsec-scanner-6.mit.edu (dmz-mailsec-scanner-6.mit.edu\r
+ [18.7.68.35])\r
+ by olra.theworths.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF113431FAE\r
+ for <notmuch@notmuchmail.org>; Thu, 12 Sep 2013 07:53:34 -0700 (PDT)\r
+X-AuditID: 12074423-b7f168e00000095a-a4-5231d56d49ba\r
+Received: from mailhub-auth-4.mit.edu ( [18.7.62.39])\r
+ by dmz-mailsec-scanner-6.mit.edu (Symantec Messaging Gateway) with SMTP\r
+ id EF.3F.02394.D65D1325; Thu, 12 Sep 2013 10:53:33 -0400 (EDT)\r
+Received: from outgoing.mit.edu (outgoing-auth-1.mit.edu [18.9.28.11])\r
+ by mailhub-auth-4.mit.edu (8.13.8/8.9.2) with ESMTP id r8CErVCQ015916; \r
+ Thu, 12 Sep 2013 10:53:32 -0400\r
+Received: from awakening.csail.mit.edu (awakening.csail.mit.edu [18.26.4.91])\r
+ (authenticated bits=0)\r
+ (User authenticated as amdragon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU)\r
+ by outgoing.mit.edu (8.13.8/8.12.4) with ESMTP id r8CErSig012589\r
+ (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT);\r
+ Thu, 12 Sep 2013 10:53:30 -0400\r
+Received: from amthrax by awakening.csail.mit.edu with local (Exim 4.80)\r
+ (envelope-from <amdragon@mit.edu>)\r
+ id 1VK8Gt-0004GM-ND; Thu, 12 Sep 2013 10:53:27 -0400\r
+Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2013 10:53:26 -0400\r
+From: Austin Clements <amdragon@MIT.EDU>\r
+To: Mark Walters <markwalters1009@gmail.com>\r
+Subject: Re: [PATCH] emacs: show: stop stderr appearing in buffer\r
+Message-ID: <20130912145326.GK1426@mit.edu>\r
+References: <1378502198-7980-1-git-send-email-markwalters1009@gmail.com>\r
+ <87r4cwojds.fsf@zancas.localnet> <87ppsepeo9.fsf@qmul.ac.uk>\r
+MIME-Version: 1.0\r
+Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii\r
+Content-Disposition: inline\r
+In-Reply-To: <87ppsepeo9.fsf@qmul.ac.uk>\r
+User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15)\r
+X-Brightmail-Tracker:\r
+ H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFupjleLIzCtJLcpLzFFi42IRYrdT1829ahhkcHaftMWN1m5Gi9VzeSyu\r
+ 35zJ7MDssXPWXXaPZ6tuMXtsOfSeOYA5issmJTUnsyy1SN8ugStj3voV7AWrRSu27DrH3MB4\r
+ W6CLkZNDQsBEYmnbC2YIW0ziwr31bF2MXBxCAvsYJdb8PcMC4WxklFhxeQaUc5pJYtGqTawQ\r
+ zhJGibO3DjOC9LMIqEocP/4ObBabgIbEtv3LweIiAjoStw8tYAexmQXsJI587wKLCws4SrTc\r
+ XMIKYvMKaEs0TFgPNbSTUeJc7w42iISgxMmZT1ggmrUkbvx7ydTFyAFkS0ss/8cBEuYE2rX/\r
+ 2VUmEFtUQEViysltbBMYhWYh6Z6FpHsWQvcCRuZVjLIpuVW6uYmZOcWpybrFyYl5ealFumZ6\r
+ uZkleqkppZsYwcHuoryD8c9BpUOMAhyMSjy8M64YBgmxJpYVV+YeYpTkYFIS5dUCCfEl5adU\r
+ ZiQWZ8QXleakFh9ilOBgVhLh3XQeKMebklhZlVqUD5OS5mBREudd76QfJCSQnliSmp2aWpBa\r
+ BJOV4eBQkuAtAxkqWJSanlqRlplTgpBm4uAEGc4DNHwuSA1vcUFibnFmOkT+FKOilDjvRpCE\r
+ AEgiozQPrheWjF4xigO9Isy7HqSKB5jI4LpfAQ1mAhr83VcfZHBJIkJKqoExRrXf+nmk/IqX\r
+ 8jWx6QU2h66kO1rnns9nWrrz5a/8CdW7q9au3KP8IMjimNyDivar84LkOHwEjizZyx9hz3At\r
+ smmOxEHv46GqrcuEbh9Jv2cZ8PnZtTvircE3T1gvXuTkl3ZM6sfhCrliax1loyl3XpzyESiT\r
+ /pPUs3ZG+xner9O/791mkLJGiaU4I9FQi7moOBEACK5P5yEDAAA=\r
+Cc: notmuch@notmuchmail.org\r
+X-BeenThere: notmuch@notmuchmail.org\r
+X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13\r
+Precedence: list\r
+List-Id: "Use and development of the notmuch mail system."\r
+ <notmuch.notmuchmail.org>\r
+List-Unsubscribe: <http://notmuchmail.org/mailman/options/notmuch>,\r
+ <mailto:notmuch-request@notmuchmail.org?subject=unsubscribe>\r
+List-Archive: <http://notmuchmail.org/pipermail/notmuch>\r
+List-Post: <mailto:notmuch@notmuchmail.org>\r
+List-Help: <mailto:notmuch-request@notmuchmail.org?subject=help>\r
+List-Subscribe: <http://notmuchmail.org/mailman/listinfo/notmuch>,\r
+ <mailto:notmuch-request@notmuchmail.org?subject=subscribe>\r
+X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2013 14:53:43 -0000\r
+\r
+Quoth Mark Walters on Sep 12 at 10:33 am:\r
+> \r
+> Hi\r
+> \r
+> On Tue, 10 Sep 2013, David Bremner <david@tethera.net> wrote:\r
+> >> Ideally, we would put this output in the notmuch errors buffer but the\r
+> >> handler is called asynchronously so we don't know when the output will\r
+> >> appear. Thus if we put it straight into the errors buffer it could get\r
+> >> interleaved with other errors, otoh we can't easily tell when we\r
+> >> have got all the error output so can't wait until the process is complete.\r
+> >\r
+> > Hi Mark;\r
+> >\r
+> > I think your patch is OK, but would it be much harder to created a named\r
+> > buffer like *notmuch-view-$message-d* ? (using e.g. the code from\r
+> > notmuch-show). I might make debugging easier.\r
+> \r
+> Yes this is easy. There are several possibilities and I am not sure\r
+> which is best (some are clearly bad but are worth mentioning anyway).\r
+> \r
+> 1) have a single buffer for part errors; this would accumulate stuff and\r
+> output seems to get interleaved so this is probably useless.\r
+> \r
+> 2) have a buffer for each part viewer as you describe.\r
+> \r
+> 3) have a buffer for each part viewer but start its name with a space so\r
+> it doesn't show up in buffer lists but is findable (maybe)\r
+\r
+3.5) Say something in the echo area when a viewer terminates with\r
+output, so it doesn't interrupt the user if they're doing something,\r
+but the output buffer is still discoverable. Maybe bind C-c ` to show\r
+the most recently reported output buffer, like what (la)tex-mode and\r
+others do, and mention this binding in the echo area message.\r
+\r
+> 4) stick with just the temp buffer approach\r
+> \r
+> Also, we could have it togglable with some sort of debug flag. In some\r
+> senses 3 is nice but you would probably end up with 10's or even\r
+> hundreds of hidden buffers which seems bad. In 2 you see them so you\r
+> probably kill them as you go but I think they would be pretty\r
+> annoying. A key difference from the accumulated show/search/pick buffers\r
+> is that, at some point, you did want to see those buffers.\r
+\r
+3.5.1) Don't create a buffer until the command has output (or, easier\r
+to implement: create the buffer, but kill it on exit if there was no\r
+output). When starting a new command, kill output buffers from\r
+no-longer-running viewers that have never been visited (using\r
+buffer-display-count or buffer-display-time).\r
+\r
+> Since all these approaches are easy to implement it is really up to us\r
+> which we want.\r
+> \r
+> Any thoughts?\r
+> \r
+> Mark\r
+> \r
+> \r
+> >\r
+> > Of course those buffers would accumulate, along with show, search and\r
+> > pick buffers...\r
+> >\r
+> > Or we could push this as is, and add some debugging facility later like\r
+> > a variable notmuch-view-errors-buffer.\r
+> >\r
+> > d\r
projects / notmuch-archives.git / commitdiff