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+From: David Bremner <david@tethera.net>\r
+To: Austin Clements <amdragon@MIT.EDU>\r
+Subject: Re: [PATCH] emacs: remove hardcoded defaults values from docstrings\r
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+Austin Clements <amdragon@MIT.EDU> writes:\r
+>\r
+> Right. I think we should both reference the variable and say what the\r
+> default behavior is (there's no reason not to do both). But isn't\r
+> that what these docstrings used to do?\r
+\r
+Looking at the old docstrings in notmuch-show.el, I agree they basically\r
+implement Tomi's suggestion. While I think copying default values of\r
+variables into docstrings creates some minor maintainability traps\r
+(since we then need to remember to look at all the places a variable is\r
+referenced if we change the default value), I'm willing to revert the\r
+patch if people think the tradeoff of better usability is worth it.\r
+\r
+It is unfortunate emacs doesn't provide a way to expand the current\r
+value of a variable in the help string, but there we are. It probably\r
+wouldn't be as easy to understand as hand crafted text in any case.\r
+\r
+d\r
+\r