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+From: Jameson Graef Rollins <jrollins@finestructure.net>\r
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+Subject: Re: github\r
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+On Sun, Apr 27 2014, Jani Nikula <jani@nikula.org> wrote:\r
+> To be honest, I am slightly concerned by the popularity of\r
+> github. Despite being a hosting site primarily for open source, it *is*\r
+> a proprietary platform. Source code hosting is plain git, but AFAIK all\r
+> the rest (review process, issue tracking, and so on) is pretty much at\r
+> the whim and mercy of the company running it. They make a change, you\r
+> adapt. If you don't want to adapt, it's not easy to switch over to\r
+> another service provider either if you've built your process around\r
+> github.\r
+>\r
+> So even if the features of github amazed me (they don't), I would have\r
+> pretty strong reservations about relying on them.\r
+\r
+There seems to have been a lot of discussion on the list recently about\r
+github. I just want to express my very strong agreement with Jani's\r
+sentiment above. A lot of us in the notmuch community moved to notmuch\r
+because we didn't want our email controlled by a single service provider\r
+(e.g. gmail). I don't want our development cycle controlled by github\r
+(or any other proprietary SCM) for many of the same reasons.\r
+\r
+The current notmuch development process, that's been built up over the\r
+last five years, is the most efficient and effective I've ever worked\r
+with. It's really a well-oiled machine. Newcomers (always welcome!)\r
+should give it a try before suggesting we abandon it.\r
+\r
+jamie.\r
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