Re: Bug#683505: notmuch: FTBFS if built twice in a row: unrepresentable changes to...
authorJameson Graef Rollins <jrollins@finestructure.net>
Thu, 2 Aug 2012 03:10:00 +0000 (20:10 +1700)
committerW. Trevor King <wking@tremily.us>
Fri, 7 Nov 2014 17:48:43 +0000 (09:48 -0800)
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+From: Jameson Graef Rollins <jrollins@finestructure.net>\r
+To: David Bremner <david@tethera.net>, 683505@bugs.debian.org,\r
+       Jakub Wilk <jwilk@debian.org>\r
+Subject: Re: Bug#683505: notmuch: FTBFS if built twice in a row:\r
+       unrepresentable changes to source\r
+In-Reply-To: <87ipd29tu4.fsf@convex-new.cs.unb.ca>\r
+References: <20120801103707.GA668@jwilk.net>\r
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+On Wed, Aug 01 2012, David Bremner <david@tethera.net> wrote:\r
+> As I mentioned on IRC, the test only fails on the Debian build machines\r
+> (building in a clean chroot using sbuild is not enough) so it isn't\r
+> really clear how to duplicate the it. Perhaps building in a clean\r
+> virtual machine without networking would do it.  For which tests fail,\r
+> see\r
+>\r
+> https://buildd.debian.org/status/fetch.php?pkg=3Dnotmuch&arch=3Di386&ver=\r
+=3D0.13.2-1&stamp=3D1338740444\r
+>\r
+> I think the first things to fail are emacs tests. At a wild guess, it\r
+> looks like all of the failing tests are related to emacs.\r
+\r
+From=20a cursory look that does appear to be the case.  The non-emacs\r
+tests that are also failing (json and crypto) are using\r
+emacs_deliver_message.  Do we have any idea what's going on here?\r
+\r
+> I don't think failing the build is the right thing to do, since there\r
+> does not actually seem to be anything wrong with the resulting\r
+> packages. So removing them from Debian because of some problems with\r
+> running the test suite seems a bit extreme.  People not using\r
+> notmuch-emacs would probably be especially annoyed ;).\r
+\r
+But it also doesn't make much sense to me to run the tests as part of\r
+the build only to ignore the result.  How do we know that the failing\r
+tests aren't actually affecting the distributed packages?  The emacs\r
+failures could be masking real failures of the emacs interface (which\r
+users of notmuch-emacs would probably also find really annoying!).\r
+\r
+jamie.\r
+\r
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