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+From: David Bremner <david@tethera.net>\r
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+Subject: Re: Breaking a really long thread\r
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+David Mazieres <dm-list-email-notmuch@scs.stanford.edu> writes:\r
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+> Is there any way to break an existing thread (so as to start over with a\r
+> smaller thread), or otherwise to tweak the threading rules so that a\r
+> particular References header gets ignored.\r
+\r
+Currently there is no way to do this, as threads are "stateless"\r
+i.e. created on the fly by _notmuch_create_thread based only on\r
+immutable mail data. We'd have to be willing to dump/restore any\r
+threading hints we added to the database, but we're already headed down\r
+that path with the libconfig stuff anyway. Something we _almost_ have\r
+the infrastructure in place for would be to blacklist a particular\r
+reference (e.g. by regex) by storing the blacklist as database\r
+metadata. That would solve your particular problem, although I'm not\r
+sure it it's general enough. Keeping global state for all thread\r
+breaking sounds a bit clunky.\r
+\r
+> It's annoyingly slow to open\r
+> a thread with 10,000 messages just to read one SMS. I'm almost tempted\r
+> to mangle the messages on delivery and remove the References header\r
+> before notmuch sees them, but it would be nice to have a cleaner\r
+> solution, as there are other situations in which one might want to\r
+> "reset" a really long thread.\r
+\r
+Like this thread ;).\r