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+From: Jani Nikula <jani@nikula.org>\r
+To: Mark Walters <markwalters1009@gmail.com>, notmuch@notmuchmail.org\r
+Subject: Re: [PATCH] emacs: jump: show key shortcut\r
+In-Reply-To: <1450603587-2950-1-git-send-email-markwalters1009@gmail.com>\r
+References: <1450031043-24038-1-git-send-email-jani@nikula.org>\r
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+Date: Sun, 20 Dec 2015 14:50:11 +0200\r
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+On Sun, 20 Dec 2015, Mark Walters <markwalters1009@gmail.com> wrote:\r
+> This shows the jump key shortcut in the hello screen -- it underlines\r
+> the letter, if it is present, in the search name.\r
+> ---\r
+>\r
+> In id:1450031043-24038-1-git-send-email-jani@nikula.org Jani suggested\r
+> showing jump key shortcuts in the hello screen. I like the idea but\r
+> found the method a little cluttered.\r
+\r
+Yes; it was a proof-of-concept.\r
+\r
+> This is an alternative approach which underlines the relevant key in\r
+> the search name (if it occurs). This is relatively unintrusive\r
+> (possibly even too hard to see) and is in line with how many other\r
+> applications show shortcuts.\r
+>\r
+> I am guessing that most people choose a shortcut key with some\r
+> relevance to the search name (eg i for inbox) so in most cases I think\r
+> the shortcut will be shown. Of course multi-key shortcuts will not be shown.\r
+\r
+While I understand your thinking, this falls short for me in several\r
+ways.\r
+\r
+First is that it's case sensitive. "i for Inbox" doesn't work. However\r
+if you made it case insensitive, it might be silly for upper case\r
+shortcuts.\r
+\r
+Second is that automatic selection of the letter to underline is not\r
+necessarily the logical one. "n for Inbox (notmuch)" underlines n in\r
+"Inbox" instead of "notmuch". Hard to do anything about this. But it can\r
+be confusing UI wise.\r
+\r
+Third is that I do use characters not in the search name. For example "*\r
+for flagged". I'm not happy that there is no fallback when the letter is\r
+not present.\r
+\r
+> If people think the underlining is too discreet then we could change\r
+> the 'underline below to '(:foreground "red") or similar.\r
+\r
+I don't think I would find the "fruit salad" visually pleasing. If\r
+different colors were used, I'd prefer the letters were separate from\r
+the name. Like in the jump search menu. I might like that the best.\r
+\r
+Talking of the jump search menu, is it intentional that you underline\r
+the keys there now too?\r
+\r
+Finally, if this is supposed to be helpful to newcomers too, the user\r
+won't know how to access these underlined shortcuts, as you have to hit\r
+"j" first.\r
+\r
+\r
+BR,\r
+Jani.\r
+\r
+\r
+\r
+>\r
+> Best wishes\r
+>\r
+> Mark\r
+>\r
+>\r
+>\r
+> emacs/notmuch-hello.el | 8 ++++++++\r
+> 1 file changed, 8 insertions(+)\r
+>\r
+> diff --git a/emacs/notmuch-hello.el b/emacs/notmuch-hello.el\r
+> index 8bde808..de77730 100644\r
+> --- a/emacs/notmuch-hello.el\r
+> +++ b/emacs/notmuch-hello.el\r
+> @@ -572,7 +572,9 @@ with `notmuch-hello-query-counts'."\r
+> (if (> column-indent 0)\r
+> (widget-insert (make-string column-indent ? )))\r
+> (let* ((name (plist-get elem :name))\r
+> + (key (plist-get elem :key))\r
+> (query (plist-get elem :query))\r
+> +\r
+> (oldest-first (case (plist-get elem :sort-order)\r
+> (newest-first nil)\r
+> (oldest-first t)\r
+> @@ -581,6 +583,12 @@ with `notmuch-hello-query-counts'."\r
+> (msg-count (plist-get elem :count)))\r
+> (widget-insert (format "%8s "\r
+> (notmuch-hello-nice-number msg-count)))\r
+> + (save-match-data\r
+> + (let ((case-fold-search nil))\r
+> + (when (and key (string-match key name))\r
+> + (add-face-text-property (match-beginning 0) (match-end 0)\r
+> + 'underline\r
+> + nil name))))\r
+> (widget-create 'push-button\r
+> :notify #'notmuch-hello-widget-search\r
+> :notmuch-search-terms query\r
+> -- \r
+> 2.1.4\r
+>\r
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