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+From: Tomi Ollila <tomi.ollila@iki.fi>\r
+To: Justus Winter <4winter@informatik.uni-hamburg.de>, notmuch@notmuchmail.org\r
+Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 1/1] add --stderr option\r
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+On Tue, May 21 2013, Justus Winter <4winter@informatik.uni-hamburg.de> wrote:\r
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+> Quoting Tomi Ollila (2013-05-21 20:42:30)\r
+>> ---\r
+>> \r
+>> Note quickly written untested code (but compiles!), just to show an idea...\r
+>> \r
+>> This implements (i hope) curl(1) --stderr option in notmuch(1):\r
+>> \r
+>> --stderr <file>\r
+>> Redirect all writes to stderr to the specified file instead. If\r
+>> the file name is a plain '-', it is instead written to stdout.\r
+>> \r
+>> This would be useful in emacs interface.\r
+>\r
+> Hm, shouldn't it be possible to bind a pipe(2) to stderr instead? I\r
+> mean in the process of running the notmuch binary (i.e. somewhere\r
+> along the lines of fork and exec)?\r
+\r
+Yes, if emacs(1) were smarter ;/\r
+\r
+> I've implemented this for alot, which does not use the binary but\r
+> directly calls into libnotmuch, but does so in a helper process. Said\r
+> helper has a pipe(2) on stderr and the alot process reads from it and\r
+> turns any line into a log message.\r
+\r
+It is unfortunate that you have to do that -- libnotmuch should not\r
+emit anything to stderr... We've briefly discussed what changes\r
+are needed to libnotmuch what could be done there but... :)\r
+\r
+<questionable advice>\r
+Instead of running separate process you could have both ends of the\r
+pipe in same process and check after libnotmuch call whether there \r
+is data in the reading end of the pipe. I think pipe buffers like 4k\r
+of data. If you used socketpair(2) that buffers 100k of data by\r
+default in Linux systems. Still, using nonblocking fds are\r
+advisable if using this hack ;D\r
+</questionable advice>\r
+\r
+>\r
+> Justus\r
+\r
+Tomi\r