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+Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2013 14:39:59 +0200\r
+From: Tomi Valkeinen <tomi.valkeinen@iki.fi>\r
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+On 2013-11-19 14:12, Jani Nikula wrote:\r
+> On Mon, 18 Nov 2013, Tomi Valkeinen <tomi.valkeinen@iki.fi> wrote:\r
+>> Hi,\r
+>>\r
+>> I found out about notmuch quite recently, and now I've been tinkering\r
+>> with it, prototyping a GUI client. I have some questions and observati=\r
+ons:\r
+>=20\r
+> Hello Tomi, glad you've found notmuch too! ;)\r
+\r
+Well, I'm still using Thunderbird... ;)\r
+\r
+>> 3.\r
+>>\r
+>> How is a client using notmuch supposed to find out there are new\r
+>> messages, and which messages are new?\r
+>=20\r
+> 'notmuch new' tags any new messages it finds with tags specified in\r
+> new.tags config option (man notmuch-config), "inbox" and "unread" by\r
+> default. Some people like to change that to "new", and run a post-new\r
+> hook (man notmuch-hooks) that looks at messages matching tag:new,\r
+> retagging as desired.\r
+>=20\r
+>> My current thought is to make 'notmuch new' run a script that tags the=\r
+\r
+>> messages, and make it add a 'new-gui' or such tag to all new messages.=\r
+\r
+>> The client would then periodically make a query for that tag, and at t=\r
+he\r
+>> same time remove the tag for any returned messages.\r
+>=20\r
+> As said, 'notmuch new' does that, and it can also run a script for you.=\r
+\r
+\r
+I think I wasn't very clear on what I meant. I was thinking about the\r
+behavior that graphical mail clients have: they periodically refresh the\r
+emails, showing new ones if there are any, and they'll show some icon or\r
+such which tells the user this email is "new" (which could mean received\r
+in the last periodic refresh).\r
+\r
+So with notmuch, the client would somehow need to know that there has\r
+been changes in the database, and then know which emails are new.\r
+\r
+For the former, I have no good idea as there doesn't seem to be any way\r
+to find out the db was changed since the last open. For the latter, I\r
+guess the tagging method I mentioned above should work.\r
+\r
+If the xapian document id was available, I believe it could also be used\r
+for the latter, as it should always be increasing.\r
+\r
+>> 5.\r
+>>\r
+>> This one is just a vague thought that came to my mind. At the moment\r
+>> notmuch hides Xapian totally behind notmuch's interface, which probabl=\r
+y\r
+>> makes things simpler (and gives a nice C API), but also (afaik) preven=\r
+ts\r
+>> using Xapian features that are not at the moment supported in the\r
+>> notmuch API.\r
+>>\r
+>> I wonder how would an approach work where notmuch would be a bit more\r
+>> like a helper library, allowing full use of Xapian's features but maki=\r
+ng\r
+>> it simple to manage notmuch database. So, for example, when making a\r
+>> query, you'd create a Xapian query with notmuch, and then use Xapian t=\r
+o\r
+>> run the query.\r
+>>\r
+>> I don't have anything clear in mind, and obviously Xapian being C++\r
+>> might make the whole idea unimplementable.\r
+>=20\r
+> I think the database implementation has been abstracted on purpose, so\r
+> we could, at least in theory, switch from xapian to something else. I\r
+> don't know how feasible that would be though. I think Austin has\r
+> experimented with that.\r
+\r
+Ah, a valid point, I didn't think of that.\r
+\r
+ Tomi\r
+\r
+\r
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