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+To: Wael Nasreddine <wael.nasreddine@gmail.com>, notmuch@notmuchmail.org\r
+Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] Enable Travis-CI as a backup continuous\r
+ integration service.\r
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+From: David Edmondson <dme@dme.org>\r
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+On Thu, May 15 2014, Wael Nasreddine wrote:\r
+> It is fragile, but unfortunately there's no way (As far as I know)\r
+> around this problem. Travis-CI is currently running Ubuntu Precise\r
+> (12.04) and they have plans to update to Trusty[0] but it's going to take\r
+> them some time.\r
+\r
+Please forgive my ignorance. What is the place from which you are\r
+grabbing these packages? It doesn't seem to be part of the Ubuntu\r
+repositories. Is there no backports or security-updates repository for\r
+Ubuntu 12.04?\r
+\r
+I'm really asking whether there is a way to use the standard Ubuntu\r
+repositories to get the packages rather than downloading them directly.\r
+\r
+>> - What happens when those are no longer the right version numbers?\r
+> I can host the files in a Github repository if that would work better? I\r
+> am not very concerned about security in this case because Travis runs in\r
+> an isolated disposable VM created for the build and destroyed\r
+> afterwards.\r
+\r
+I have no strong preference. If they aren't coming from the standard\r
+repositories then it's all just slightly different versions of bad :-)\r
+\r
+>> - What happens when those versions are already provided by the standard\r
+>> repository?\r
+>\r
+> When #2046[0] is fixed by the Travis-CI team, our travis.yml will be\r
+> updated to work accordingly.\r
+\r
+Presume that you have lost interest in notmuch. How will we know that\r
+this has happened?\r
+\r
+>> - What happens if travis runs start happening on (say) an arm64 machine?\r
+>\r
+> Travis is currently running amd64[1] and I don't think they have plans\r
+> to change that, in fact I heard that they have plans to support more\r
+> architectures configurable in .travis.yml\r
+\r
+Your two statements seem contradictory here.\r
+\r
+>> I realise that you might answer "I will keep this up to date", but we\r
+>> have to worry about what happens if you lose interest and wander away.\r
+>\r
+> Absolutely, I understand your point and no one can guarantee\r
+> maintainer-ship. I can modify my patch and add documentation (comments\r
+> in the yaml file) about what each flag does, where can you documentation\r
+> about it and of course details about the hack. Would that be helpful?\r
+\r
+Comments explaining the need to grab the packages directly would be the\r
+absolute minimum requirement, I think. Include a pointer to the travis\r
+issue that you mentioned.\r
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