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+From: David Bremner <david@tethera.net>\r
+To: Claudio Bley <claudio.bley@googlemail.com>, notmuch@notmuchmail.org\r
+Subject: Re: notmuch on w32\r
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+Claudio Bley <claudio.bley@googlemail.com> writes:\r
+\r
+> I wanted to use notmuch on MS Windows and thus have ported the code to\r
+> be able to compile with MinGW and MSYS using the GNU autotools on that\r
+> platform.\r
+\r
+Do you really need autotools, or was it just the easiest path to get\r
+things working on w32? \r
+\r
+> Now, I'm in the process of streamlining the patches.\r
+>\r
+> As a first prerequisite I integrated gnulib as a git submodule and\r
+> added the Makefile.am and configure.ac stuff.\r
+\r
+I'm not really in favour of embedding gnulib (or any other library) in\r
+the notmuch source tree, using submodules or otherwise. I understand the\r
+gnulib authors intend it to be embedded, but the idea of staticly\r
+linking to something whose source tree is 87M gives me pause. \r
+\r
+At least on debian gnulib is packaged as a seperate library; I don't\r
+know how usable it is in that configuration.\r
+\r
+I wouldn't say that we are minimalist, but we are making an effort to\r
+keep the dependencies as small as possible, so even setting aside the\r
+question of embedding, the cost/benefit ratio of this new proposed\r
+dependency would have to be discussed.\r
+\r
+> My question is: would it hurt your feelings if I'd rip off the old\r
+> build system completely and substitute it with an autotools build?\r
+\r
+We have so far avoided autotools on purpose. For a previous discussion\r
+on build systems, see\r
+\r
+ http://article.gmane.org/gmane.mail.notmuch.general/700\r
+\r
+(and the rest of the thread).\r
+\r
+I don't want to sound too discouraging, but my initial impression is\r
+that your approach sounds fairly intrusive for a benefit (w32\r
+compatibility) that is not a huge motivator for me. \r
+\r
+Speaking only for myself,\r
+\r
+d\r
+\r
+P.S. in case it isn't completely obvious, I'm only discussing what's\r
+suitable for inclusion upstream.\r