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+To: Mark Walters <markwalters1009@gmail.com>, notmuch@notmuchmail.org\r
+Subject: Re: [Patch v3 0/3] emacs: show: redesign unread/read logic\r
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+From: David Edmondson <dme@dme.org>\r
+Date: Thu, 08 May 2014 07:14:23 +0100\r
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+On Wed, May 07 2014, Mark Walters wrote:\r
+> A message is marked read if:\r
+>\r
+> 1) if you navigate to a message using n/p (next/prev open message)=20\r
+>\r
+> 2) if you navigate to it using N/P (next/prev message) regardless of\r
+> whether the message is open or closed.\r
+>\r
+> 3) if you go to it using n.s.next-matching-message (not bound by\r
+> default) whether message is open or closed.\r
+>\r
+> 4) when you enter a buffer and notmuch goes to the first open message.\r
+>\r
+> but not marked read in cases like:\r
+>\r
+> 1) opening a message\r
+>\r
+> 2) viewing or entering a message using other notmuch navigation such as\r
+> notmuch-show-advance and friends (bound to space)\r
+\r
+My experience is that this removes the 'unread' tag.\r
+\r
+> 3) viewing or entering a message using arrow keys, page-up page-down,\r
+> ctrl-v mouse clicks etc\r
+>\r
+> Personally, I think marking a closed message read is a bug,\r
+\r
+Agreed.\r
+\r
+> and not marking it read when opening it is too\r
+\r
+Agreed.\r
+\r
+> (at least in many cases).\r
+\r
+I would be happy with just these fixed (i.e. the current behaviour with\r
+those two bug fixes). My typical use is to move around a thread using\r
+Space, Backspace, n, p, N and P with RET, M-RET and C-u M-RET to\r
+manipulate open/closed state (i.e. not the normal emacs movement\r
+commands to move).\r
+\r
+> The other problem with the current approach (in my view) is that if\r
+> you try to use the navigation commands non-interactively then messages\r
+> end up being marked read, even if they are never displayed to the\r
+> user.\r
+\r
+In what cases does this happen? (Not arguing, just not fully\r
+understanding.)\r
+\r
+> Linking into the post-command-hook means that this should "just work".\r
+>\r
+> Questions: What does it mean for a message to be the current message?\r
+> Is it just point being in the message?\r
+\r
+This makes sense to me, other than perhaps "point being in an _open_\r
+message". I don't want moving point through a closed message with C-n to\r
+remove the 'unread' tag.\r
+\r
+> Would you be happy with a message being marked read when point entered\r
+> the message? That could be done from the post-command-hook\r
+> infrastructure to fix some of the problems mentioned above.\r
+>\r
+> I think that is likely that people will disagree on how they want this\r
+> to work so I would like to try and make it customisable so I would\r
+> definitely be interested to see if I can get the behaviour you would\r
+> like from this infrastructure (or something similar).\r
+>\r
+> Best wishes\r
+>\r
+> Mark\r
+\r
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