Return-Path: X-Original-To: notmuch@notmuchmail.org Delivered-To: notmuch@notmuchmail.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by olra.theworths.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA6D4431FC9 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2015 20:44:17 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at olra.theworths.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 2.639 X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, score=2.639 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DNS_FROM_AHBL_RHSBL=2.438, FREEMAIL_ENVFROM_END_DIGIT=1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7] autolearn=disabled Received: from olra.theworths.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (olra.theworths.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 3mR7t83dmx73 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2015 20:44:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-pd0-f172.google.com (mail-pd0-f172.google.com [209.85.192.172]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by olra.theworths.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8A050431FAF for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2015 20:44:14 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-pd0-f172.google.com with SMTP id v10so23270573pde.3 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2015 20:44:13 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:to:subject:in-reply-to:references:user-agent:date:message-id :mime-version:content-type; bh=g+bJ/t4Y/uYSIjRuZRBgW8YXqOKJZ/oNyHIWfNPat5Q=; b=KAhhJ1Mh7Aag7iOQK9wDCEhXzNPSVdd1WU/xbXOyW54Qcb/RN90xhthprC6Eh0y77X pluvwNoep1gxOafz8brJMcMmZ3kQFskiQC2SFdRQ5UO+vuXIlDck6r18g2G+amhgI7Dr FOPQSjlernOQUwn21UN4WnAH1ropWttXhQmx8hGoUp9yWsSMF/AfkeepZdATl9xEeThZ OvxfqpqJnm03k4R02ttAwI2bIF4d9KAE50ux8YFo9boCqw/jJmfbTZAXcoiKykODE98F JFGfy2xTsjHdzSuHYJjKlbGEVfH+hPs9RyDrDmuUBzAjtAu7Kf/Df+Be3p2LR2P6TOIN l+GA== X-Received: by 10.66.124.225 with SMTP id ml1mr2490155pab.142.1422420253619; Tue, 27 Jan 2015 20:44:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost ([2601:9:5d00:15b9:4126:a36a:c52a:a96f]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id lq2sm3213926pab.34.2015.01.27.20.44.12 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 27 Jan 2015 20:44:12 -0800 (PST) From: Jinwoo Lee To: Daniel Kahn Gillmor , David Bremner , notmuch mailing list Subject: Re: privacy problem: text/html parts pull in network resources In-Reply-To: <871tmfin1k.fsf@alice.fifthhorseman.net> References: <87ppa7q25w.fsf@alice.fifthhorseman.net> <87fvay3g0g.fsf@maritornes.cs.unb.ca> <871tmfin1k.fsf@alice.fifthhorseman.net> User-Agent: Notmuch/0.18.1 (http://notmuchmail.org) Emacs/24.4.1 (x86_64-apple-darwin13.2.0) Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2015 20:44:10 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-BeenThere: notmuch@notmuchmail.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "Use and development of the notmuch mail system." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2015 04:44:18 -0000 On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 07:47 PM, Daniel Kahn Gillmor wrote: > On Sun 2015-01-25 12:51:43 -0500, David Bremner wrote: >> Daniel Kahn Gillmor writes: >> >>> If i send a message with a text/html part (either it's only text/html, >>> or all parts are rendered, or it's multipart/alternative with only a >>> text/html subpart) and that HTML has >> src="http://example.org/test.png"/> in it, then notmuch will make a >>> network request for that image. >>> >>> This is a privacy disaster, because it enables an e-mail sender to use >>> "web bugs" to tell when a given notmuch user has opened their e-mail. >> >> I've just pushed Austin's shr related series to master, so this problem >> should be fixed as of commit b74ed1c. One tradeoff that we should at >> least remark in NEWS, if not actually fix, is that I think there is now >> no way to view such images in notmuch. I don't know offhand what other >> html renderers will do. > > thanks for this, David and Austin! > > Other html-rendering mail clients that are privacy-conscious will often > provide a button or mechanism to indicate that some remote resources > were requested by the page but weren't fetched (e.g. a button saying > something like [Load Remote Images...]). I have no idea who actually > clicks on those buttons (or why), though, and even if we wanted them, > we'd only want to add a button on an image that actually had remote > network resources to load, and i don't know how we'd get that > information propagated back up the rendering stack to make such a > display decision. So i'm fine with leaving it this way for now. Well, most promotional emails contain remote images and their contents are incomprehensible without those images. I ignore most of them but I do read a few of those promotional emails. It would be great to have a UI for loading remote resources. > > --dkg > _______________________________________________ > notmuch mailing list > notmuch@notmuchmail.org > http://notmuchmail.org/mailman/listinfo/notmuch