Return-Path: X-Original-To: notmuch@notmuchmail.org Delivered-To: notmuch@notmuchmail.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by olra.theworths.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E8AB431FD0 for ; Fri, 3 Jun 2011 15:56:56 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at olra.theworths.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.01 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.01 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[T_MIME_NO_TEXT=0.01] autolearn=disabled Received: from olra.theworths.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (olra.theworths.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id XOOhzPlVHq24 for ; Fri, 3 Jun 2011 15:56:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from arlo.cworth.org (arlo.cworth.org [50.43.72.2]) by olra.theworths.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE5D2431FB6 for ; Fri, 3 Jun 2011 15:56:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from yoom.home.cworth.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by arlo.cworth.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B20DC29A5CC; Fri, 3 Jun 2011 15:56:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: by yoom.home.cworth.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id A122625417E; Fri, 3 Jun 2011 15:56:54 -0700 (PDT) From: Carl Worth To: Jameson Graef Rollins , Notmuch Mail Subject: When will we have our next release? User-Agent: Notmuch/0.5 (http://notmuchmail.org) Emacs/23.3.1 (i486-pc-linux-gnu) Date: Fri, 03 Jun 2011 15:56:42 -0700 Message-ID: <878vtile1h.fsf@yoom.home.cworth.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-BeenThere: notmuch@notmuchmail.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "Use and development of the notmuch mail system." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 03 Jun 2011 22:56:56 -0000 --=-=-= Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, 03 Jun 2011 14:39:13 -0700, Jameson Graef Rollins wrote: > Can we set a target date for 0.6 release? So we'll all start feeling > really bad if we miss it? Frankly, I wouldn't mind doing strict time-based releases with something like the following: * We schedule a release period (once per month?) * We schedule a "safety period" before the release (one week?) * At the beginning of the safety period, package up the head of the notmuch tree and upload to Debian experimental and anywhere else similar. * During the safety period we hopefully get wider testing than we normally have from just the git master branch. If any bugs are found and fixed during this time we can create a branch for them. New feature work can continue to land on master. * At the end of the safety period we package up the same bits, or the new bits from the cherry-picked fixes on the branch, and upload them to Debian unstable and anywhere else similar. I'd even be happy for someone else (other than me) to run that process. That might be beneficial for a couple of reasons: * It would simply take one thing off my plate. * I'm inclined to do feature work myself---and when I start doing that again, I might get tempted to delay the release "just until I finish this next feature...". I think that's the problematic state we've been in for the past several months. Right after 0.5 I thought "I should do some database changes to support indexing/searching of arbitrary headers and to capture complete email addresses". I've not actually gotten around to doing that work yet, but I was a bit stuck mentally in "the next release will have those features" so there was never any threat of a release actually happening. So switching to a more strictly time-based cycle can definitely help, (so many other projects use time-based releases very successfully). Now, in order to hand the release process over to someone else, we need a really simple "just push this button" mechanism for the release. I think we've got that pretty-well in place right now, with the large exception of writing the NEWS file. So the fix for that is to start rejecting patches that add features or fix user-visible bugs (other than regressions since the past release) without also updating the NEWS file. I'll commit myself to doing that for my own bug fixes and features as well. I also think it's possible for me to be successful as the release manager as long as we decide on a schedule as a community and that way you all keep me to it. The current state of keep-coding-until-we-have-a-state-good-enough-to- call-the-next-release does have the potential to keep running on forever. I'd be glad to get any feedback or additional ideas from anyone, =2DCarl =2D-=20 carl.d.worth@intel.com --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAk3pZqoACgkQ6JDdNq8qSWjlxwCfaiEidB5GAQTQp0Q2IUOt7uOO PWwAn2GDT0OEDezEWpR/exx4POLw34BU =4QdX -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=--