Return-Path: X-Original-To: notmuch@notmuchmail.org Delivered-To: notmuch@notmuchmail.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by olra.theworths.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A35F431FB6 for ; Mon, 13 Aug 2012 21:47:28 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at olra.theworths.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.01 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.01 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[T_MIME_NO_TEXT=0.01] autolearn=disabled Received: from olra.theworths.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (olra.theworths.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id rg+WkSJiGIYj for ; Mon, 13 Aug 2012 21:47:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kaylee.flamingspork.com (kaylee.flamingspork.com [74.207.245.61]) by olra.theworths.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F31F0431FAE for ; Mon, 13 Aug 2012 21:47:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from willster (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kaylee.flamingspork.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B59386065; Tue, 14 Aug 2012 04:49:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: by willster (Postfix, from userid 1000) id C4A703081A36; Tue, 14 Aug 2012 14:47:23 +1000 (EST) From: Stewart Smith To: Vladimir Marek , Ciprian Dorin Craciun Subject: Re: Alternative (raw) message store (i.e. instead of maildir) In-Reply-To: <20120811094635.GY28321@pub.cz.oracle.com> References: <20120811094635.GY28321@pub.cz.oracle.com> User-Agent: Notmuch/0.13.2+60~g7ecf77d (http://notmuchmail.org) Emacs/23.3.1 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2012 14:47:23 +1000 Message-ID: <874no613ms.fsf@flamingspork.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Cc: notmuch@notmuchmail.org X-BeenThere: notmuch@notmuchmail.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "Use and development of the notmuch mail system." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2012 04:47:28 -0000 --=-=-= Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Vladimir Marek writes: > Hi, > > I have objections against maildir too, but I tried to tackle it from > different perspective. Store the maildir in zip file and use fuse-zip to > manage it. It works sort of but it has two major disadvantages: huh... this is fairly interesting.... one of the downsides of a million odd files for mail is that filesystem dump and restore takes a *LOT* longer than if it's just giant files on disk. Combined with afuse (fuse automounter) this could be a pretty elegant solution to the problem of storing archival Maildirs. One large archival maildir here went from 6.5GB (du -sh on XFS) to a 2.3GB ZIP archive.... that will never, ever change. Think about the performance difference between creating 560,000 files for backup/restore versus copying a single 2.3GB file. > - fuse zip stores all changes in memory until unmounted > - fuse zip (and libzip for that matter) creates new temporary file when > updating archive, which takes considerable time when the archive is > very big. This isn't much of a hastle if you have maildir per time period and archive off. Maybe if you sync flags it may be... > Of course this solution would have some disadvantages too, but for me > the advantages would win. At the moment I'm not sure if I want to > continue working on that. Maybe if there would be more interested guys I'm *really* tempted to investigate making this work for archived mail. Of course, the list of mounted file systems could get insane depending on granularity I guess... =2D-=20 Stewart Smith --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJQKdhbAAoJEP08notdpDyvrmoP/3Fvn1sLGF94eA+UoFa9+MVR 7XDwVcYGFo/w7WqOFRJDT7lIiYSicN5tYZ5MFwmxngVd7gsKG0J9ZcmN3XCBJ/jw pTR4H/T2nH3dP00dXujvYGZQ5clm/cXfbDLF2TiPIfL6jFgie6x6NFejdfEtfG1H QiJJbfwhsL1we6nAd8/HpNA+cYBtXw65oz2qWcrpkBQiTgpo9x9RC5yOG0YZjJFY 1V9ubOUnTYgingMoMTfLuBv4ztmKa2uWyXi+ZSGeLIJlXCFhU/Bcdb5mw6OgHrZX Jz96/rquDCwYgp5s+KAqZJj11qYVQc8eneYZn3We2/6/mW7moD+36rmmaIMp7H3k nGJBnRl4BHVKEvwlpNeJNbzxyAwSYbveGOOv3tS0Hhax5uyChcbt168RoiGrdLIE +DV9Byfv2JtOb5OYi2uumKvsPRWFqHIMq1UcGUIV07M0+6uNjdCpV5/bwGEsZbhU Ewm7j4iyR7TYduWxUtrpydN4BSFJC5ACIoDmyr3Rzn5/vA1bYlBCnQkWOzIdofG7 vsTR0Sjk9x9wNfxp7f+DSigkRm4zHe/JliKOQgPx9oYkL0nJ6q7mjFp6NRtlkJ4L P2lIZAsR0jiVE0x1DKOaHTISkS+bIyWKd9NSycDjeFjBheMOPrgDKOyYlbYMWTC6 plqF8wQrR7D3Bjw82Ptv =+dDD -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=--