Return-Path: X-Original-To: notmuch@notmuchmail.org Delivered-To: notmuch@notmuchmail.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by olra.theworths.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AA0C429E20 for ; Sun, 30 Jan 2011 02:28:31 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at olra.theworths.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001] autolearn=disabled Received: from olra.theworths.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (olra.theworths.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id wifozKkR5-0o for ; Sun, 30 Jan 2011 02:28:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtprelay02.ispgateway.de (smtprelay02.ispgateway.de [80.67.31.36]) by olra.theworths.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D578431FB5 for ; Sun, 30 Jan 2011 02:28:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from [87.180.51.55] (helo=stokes.schwinge.homeip.net) by smtprelay02.ispgateway.de with esmtpa (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1PjUWC-0006OJ-3C for notmuch@notmuchmail.org; Sun, 30 Jan 2011 11:28:28 +0100 Received: (qmail 17108 invoked from network); 30 Jan 2011 10:28:13 -0000 Received: from kepler.schwinge.homeip.net (192.168.111.7) by stokes.schwinge.homeip.net with QMQP; 30 Jan 2011 10:28:13 -0000 Received: (nullmailer pid 3316 invoked by uid 1000); Sun, 30 Jan 2011 10:28:13 -0000 From: Thomas Schwinge To: Carl Worth , notmuch@notmuchmail.org Subject: Re: Build system In-Reply-To: <87lj22pun9.fsf@kepler.schwinge.homeip.net> References: <1294747284-18791-1-git-send-email-thomas@schwinge.name> <87bp30n3sc.fsf@yoom.home.cworth.org> <87lj22pun9.fsf@kepler.schwinge.homeip.net> User-Agent: Notmuch/0.5-33-g665f77b (http://notmuchmail.org) Emacs/23.2.1 (i486-pc-linux-gnu) Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2011 11:28:08 +0100 Message-ID: <87bp2yptxj.fsf@kepler.schwinge.homeip.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Df-Sender: thomas@schwinge.name X-BeenThere: notmuch@notmuchmail.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "Use and development of the notmuch mail system." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2011 10:28:31 -0000 --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hallo! On Sun, 30 Jan 2011 11:12:42 +0100, I wrote: > On Sat, 29 Jan 2011 06:58:59 +1000, Carl Worth wrote: > > Rather than documenting a limitation here, why don't we do what people > > actually want. >=20 > Well, not a big deal for me -- I'm just used to building projects > containing a configure file outside of the source tree, and the notmuch > build machinery at first accepted this, but then fell over. >=20 >=20 > > What do other build systems generally do when running configure from > > some other directory? >=20 > What Rob said -- but: why re-invent Autoconf / Automake if it's already > there? I totally admit that the GNU Autotools have their ugly corners > (and indeed a lot of these), but on the other hand they do solve some > issues quite nicely. >=20 > You surely had reasons to not use these tools, and that's fine with me. > (And I'm not especially interested in working on build systems -- done > that enough in the past.) Have you looked at other tools before going > for the straight-forward (and that is very fine!) Makefile-based > solution? OK -- I found the thread starting at id:"1258897630-22282-1-git-send-email-jeff@ocjtech.us", where this has been discussed already (as I should have expected). ;-) Still, my point holds that (unless someone is willing to spend time on this, of course) we shouldn't try to replicate the Autotools, but instead keep our system as simple as it currently is, and thus just have it fail if configured outside of the source tree. Gr=C3=BC=C3=9Fe, Thomas --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJNRT04AAoJEGe3hdm9kOiiK8oH/01jXtfPelYOKC4A4pyvvfxa CgVLsw/yMRsJ8yoRzaDoKco0EDFnEciaQnTciV+iVzyz7HqBbEJ1/j9W97Dngw8G hWiVTeV0ARSuKuxEGXn28jH+z4I6S1BaL2peatSRywOKF7WvlvSxzCdJLatq19Da tu4Ek62g1qQ//wxo6hfiNsfdQd4NwAg9WkTL+zhooMzhl2mq6f7cwBMXEU7eRbxu vVXJ8bhO897mqUnbDwiBYrINZjRH+1SgXheUoQUzR862z08swn6nZivmuU+NCKW8 q5+SzueH1cY3ZOqwKzIz5UmUYr3Xx2mLcTKQk/lVB18x333bsVQsx0onifDXKUM= =ACZ+ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=--