Return-Path: X-Original-To: notmuch@notmuchmail.org Delivered-To: notmuch@notmuchmail.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by olra.theworths.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6344840DDDB for ; Fri, 12 Nov 2010 22:06:13 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at olra.theworths.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9] autolearn=ham Received: from olra.theworths.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (olra.theworths.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id da7HOpfPdJnz for ; Fri, 12 Nov 2010 22:06:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from max.feld.cvut.cz (max.feld.cvut.cz [147.32.192.36]) by olra.theworths.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A160740DDCB for ; Fri, 12 Nov 2010 22:06:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (unknown [192.168.200.4]) by max.feld.cvut.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0218319F3365; Sat, 13 Nov 2010 07:06:01 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: IMAP AMAVIS Received: from max.feld.cvut.cz ([192.168.200.1]) by localhost (styx.feld.cvut.cz [192.168.200.4]) (amavisd-new, port 10044) with ESMTP id sitRph7WPmeJ; Sat, 13 Nov 2010 07:05:59 +0100 (CET) Received: from imap.feld.cvut.cz (imap.feld.cvut.cz [147.32.192.34]) by max.feld.cvut.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FA1719F335C; Sat, 13 Nov 2010 07:05:59 +0100 (CET) Received: from steelpick.2x.cz (unknown [213.29.198.144]) (Authenticated sender: sojkam1) by imap.feld.cvut.cz (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 85B87FA004; Sat, 13 Nov 2010 07:05:59 +0100 (CET) Received: from wsh by steelpick.2x.cz with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PH9FO-00052l-ND; Sat, 13 Nov 2010 07:05:58 +0100 From: Michal Sojka To: Darren McGuicken , Matthieu Lemerre , notmuch@notmuchmail.org Subject: Re: [PATCH] How to improve the mail handling workflow? In-Reply-To: <87sjz6ft52.fsf@bookbinder.fernseed.info> References: <87fwv65zw1.fsf@free.fr> <87sjz6ft52.fsf@bookbinder.fernseed.info> User-Agent: Notmuch/0.5-11-g48b5e00 (http://notmuchmail.org) Emacs/23.2.1 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Date: Sat, 13 Nov 2010 07:05:58 +0100 Message-ID: <87sjz5pxkp.fsf@steelpick.2x.cz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-BeenThere: notmuch@notmuchmail.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "Use and development of the notmuch mail system." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 13 Nov 2010 06:06:13 -0000 On Fri, 12 Nov 2010, Darren McGuicken wrote: > On Fri, 12 Nov 2010 16:23:58 +0100, Matthieu Lemerre wrote: > > Here is first a patch that copes with this last point. Whenever you > > want to archive a thread, it finds whether you forgot to add a custom > > "user" tag to a message, and if so asks you for a tag to add before > > archiving. That way, I no longer have messages without any tags. > > Hmm, this would be very irritating in my own workflow in which I really > only use a small number of tags on a fraction of my total mail archive > to differentiate mail type or content which can't otherwise be > determined from the indexed plain text of the message (I don't like to > add a 'notmuch' tag to mail from the list for instance since a saved > search for mail sent to the list address does exactly the same thing). I agree with you in that in many cases tags can be replaced by saved searches. Last time I did it, i.e. used saved searches to distinguish messages from different mailing lists, the result was that it took very long time (something like 5 seconds) to show notmuch-hello screen. There is a bug in notmuch hello, as I described in id:"87wrtz3pw2.fsf@steelpick.2x.cz". Additionally, I compared the speed of command line searches for tags and for the whole email addresses and even without the bug mentioned above, the search for to: is usually slower than the search for tag:. And finally, there are some mailing lists, which changed their address in the past or have multiple aliases and in this case you always has to use a more complex search to match all messages to that mailing list and these searches are even more slow than tag searches. -Michal