Return-Path: X-Original-To: notmuch@notmuchmail.org Delivered-To: notmuch@notmuchmail.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by olra.theworths.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D16B431FD0 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2011 11:49:46 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at olra.theworths.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.001 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001] autolearn=disabled Received: from olra.theworths.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (olra.theworths.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 1yAjwVO3W3DY for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2011 11:49:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp3-g21.free.fr (smtp3-g21.free.fr [212.27.42.3]) by olra.theworths.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8FA2431FB6 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2011 11:49:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from matthieu-netbook (unknown [82.239.207.166]) by smtp3-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23FC0A62C0; Thu, 7 Jul 2011 20:49:36 +0200 (CEST) From: Matthieu Lemerre To: Austin Clements , Jameson Graef Rollins Subject: Re: Dangerous space bar key (was: Preventing the user shooting themself in the foot) In-Reply-To: References: <86iproe86u.fsf@greenrd.plus.com> <877h7xafto.fsf@free.fr> <87pqlpioew.fsf@servo.factory.finestructure.net> <87wrfwpjdi.fsf@free.fr> User-Agent: Notmuch/0.6+mwhudson+1700~natty1 (http://notmuchmail.org) Emacs/23.2.1 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2011 20:49:35 +0200 Message-ID: <87mxgqgc3k.fsf@free.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Notmuch Mail X-BeenThere: notmuch@notmuchmail.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "Use and development of the notmuch mail system." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2011 18:49:46 -0000 On Wed, 6 Jul 2011 09:25:41 -0400, Austin Clements wrote: > Had I replaced it, though, there are two variations I would have > tried.=C2=A0 Have you guys considered these and, if so, any thoughts? >=20 > * Make SPC mark the *current* message read and move to the next one, > rather than moving to the next and marking it read.=C2=A0 This way, you're > acknowledging the message as read once you've actually read it, rather > than having notmuch mark it read before you've actually read it. I agree. I think it's up to the user to define whether he read the message. In fact as a consequence, I have no use of the 'unread' tag. =20 > * At the end of the thread, return to the index view.=C2=A0 This way, if > you want to archive the thread, you can still just press 'a', but if > you don't, you're already set to navigate to another thread. I would prefer just to do nothing (or bell) at the end of the thread. Sometimes the end of a message is just at the end of the screen, and I want to hit space to see the next message, so I think that returning to the index would surprise me (as going to the next thread does). But this could be a third option if some people prefer that. So we would have: - do nothing - archive go to the next thread - return to the index Matthieu