Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 20:36:06 +0100
From: Stefan Schmidt <stefan@datenfreihafen.org>
To: Carl Worth <cworth@cworth.org>
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Cc: notmuch@notmuchmail.org
Subject: Re: [notmuch] 25 minutes load time with emacs -f notmuch
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Hello.

On Sat, 2009-11-21 at 18:07, Carl Worth wrote:
> On Sat, 21 Nov 2009 15:51:11 +0100, Stefan Schmidt <stefan@datenfreihafen.org> wrote:
> > Disclaimer: I'm using vim, in combination with mutt for email, for years, but
> > never dealt with emacs. Please have this in mind and spot any emacs user errors
> > in this report. :)
> 
> Hi Stefan, welcome to Notmuch! And don't worry, we don't discriminate
> (too much) against non-emacs users around here.

:)

> > I have first seen notmuch several weeks ago as it seems a silent project. Being
> > more then happy now that it envolves quickly and a real developer community
> > builds around it.
> 
> Yes. Notmuch was a silent project since it was just something that I was
> doing for myself. I was always writing it as free software, and even had
> a public git repository available, but hadn't advertised it at all yet.

Yup, I had the repo on my disk a week before Keith blogged about it. Just nice
that it was going crazy that fast and people start using it and contributing to
it.

> > But now to my problem. Getting m mail indexed was easy enough:
> > 
> > stefan@excalibur:~$ du -chs not-much-mail/
> > 1.5G    not-much-mail/
> > 1.5G    total
> > stefan@excalibur:~$ time notmuch new
> > Found 103677 total files.
> > Processed 103677 total files in 42m 30s (40 files/sec.).
> > Added 100899 new messages to the database (not much, really).
> 
> Good. I'm glad that went fairly smoothly for you.
> 
> Though, frankly, I think we need to fix "notmuch new" to do much better
> than 40 files/sec.

As a sidenote. That one is on a notebook with a slow 5400 disk and crypt + lvm +
ext3 on top. Perhaps I should put some money back for an X25 SSD. ;)

> > I put (require  'notmuch) in my ~/.emacs ans start emacs with the -f notmuch
> > option to enter the notmuch mode.
> 
> I'm glad you've figured that much out. I feel bad that that's not even
> in the documentation anywhere yet.

I have to admit it took me some time. Something like below should help?

> > What happends then is that a notmuch process gets started and emacs
> > waits for the return.
> 
> OK. This is a known shortcoming. As Bdale supposes, this problem is from
> notmuch trying to load and construct every thread in your
> database. There are actually several different bugs/missing features
> here that should be addressed:
> 
>   * "notmuch new" should look at the R flag in maildir files to
>     determine that they are read and do not need to be marked as "inbox"
>     and "unread"

I think that's what I will try to get working here. Sounds the nearest solution
to my problem. That in combination with the just merged tags-based-on-folders
patch should make me a lot happier. :)


>From 8f95e039e98addd0f4be7c31e41e534f1b519a5d Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
From: Stefan Schmidt <stefan@datenfreihafen.org>
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 20:31:55 +0100
Subject: [PATCH] INSTALL: emacs install dokumentation.

Write down the steps needed to install and actuall use notmuch in emacs. Should
help emacs newbies.

Signed-off-by: Stefan Schmidt <stefan@datenfreihafen.org>
---
 INSTALL |    8 ++++++++
 1 files changed, 8 insertions(+), 0 deletions(-)

diff --git a/INSTALL b/INSTALL
index de268b6..64b8e36 100644
--- a/INSTALL
+++ b/INSTALL
@@ -14,6 +14,14 @@ Notmuch are satisfied. If they are not, the configure script will
 notice that and provide instructions on where to obtain the necessary
 dependencies.
 
+notmuch.el installation
+-----------------------
+Installing the notmuch.el emacs lisp function systemwide:
+
+	sudo make install-emacs
+
+Each user needs to add (require 'notmuch) in his ~/.emacs to activate it.
+
 Dependencies
 ------------
 Notmuch depends on three libraries: Xapian, GMime 2.4, and Talloc
-- 
1.6.5.3

regards
Stefan Schmidt