Return-Path: X-Original-To: notmuch@notmuchmail.org Delivered-To: notmuch@notmuchmail.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by olra.theworths.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19B67431FAF for ; Thu, 12 Sep 2013 02:33:58 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at olra.theworths.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.098 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.098 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED=0.001, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, NML_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED=1.2, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3] autolearn=disabled Received: from olra.theworths.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (olra.theworths.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ZbfQHJp0EEaO for ; Thu, 12 Sep 2013 02:33:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail2.qmul.ac.uk (mail2.qmul.ac.uk [138.37.6.6]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by olra.theworths.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 01ECA431FAE for ; Thu, 12 Sep 2013 02:33:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.qmul.ac.uk ([138.37.6.40]) by mail2.qmul.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VK3HU-0001Kj-1T; Thu, 12 Sep 2013 10:33:44 +0100 Received: from 93-97-24-31.zone5.bethere.co.uk ([93.97.24.31] helo=localhost) by smtp.qmul.ac.uk with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VK3HT-0008EH-Ob; Thu, 12 Sep 2013 10:33:43 +0100 From: Mark Walters To: David Bremner , notmuch@notmuchmail.org Subject: Re: [PATCH] emacs: show: stop stderr appearing in buffer In-Reply-To: <87r4cwojds.fsf@zancas.localnet> References: <1378502198-7980-1-git-send-email-markwalters1009@gmail.com> <87r4cwojds.fsf@zancas.localnet> User-Agent: Notmuch/0.16 (http://notmuchmail.org) Emacs/23.4.1 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2013 10:33:42 +0100 Message-ID: <87ppsepeo9.fsf@qmul.ac.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Sender-Host-Address: 93.97.24.31 X-QM-SPAM-Info: Sender has good ham record. :) X-QM-Body-MD5: 37c1df6d852096289544c624c84b9dba (of first 20000 bytes) X-SpamAssassin-Score: 0.0 X-SpamAssassin-SpamBar: / X-SpamAssassin-Report: The QM spam filters have analysed this message to determine if it is spam. We require at least 5.0 points to mark a message as spam. This message scored 0.0 points. Summary of the scoring: * 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider * (markwalters1009[at]gmail.com) * 0.0 AWL AWL: From: address is in the auto white-list X-QM-Scan-Virus: ClamAV says the message is clean X-BeenThere: notmuch@notmuchmail.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "Use and development of the notmuch mail system." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2013 09:33:58 -0000 Hi On Tue, 10 Sep 2013, David Bremner wrote: >> Ideally, we would put this output in the notmuch errors buffer but the >> handler is called asynchronously so we don't know when the output will >> appear. Thus if we put it straight into the errors buffer it could get >> interleaved with other errors, otoh we can't easily tell when we >> have got all the error output so can't wait until the process is complete. > > Hi Mark; > > I think your patch is OK, but would it be much harder to created a named > buffer like *notmuch-view-$message-d* ? (using e.g. the code from > notmuch-show). I might make debugging easier. Yes this is easy. There are several possibilities and I am not sure which is best (some are clearly bad but are worth mentioning anyway). 1) have a single buffer for part errors; this would accumulate stuff and output seems to get interleaved so this is probably useless. 2) have a buffer for each part viewer as you describe. 3) have a buffer for each part viewer but start its name with a space so it doesn't show up in buffer lists but is findable (maybe) 4) stick with just the temp buffer approach Also, we could have it togglable with some sort of debug flag. In some senses 3 is nice but you would probably end up with 10's or even hundreds of hidden buffers which seems bad. In 2 you see them so you probably kill them as you go but I think they would be pretty annoying. A key difference from the accumulated show/search/pick buffers is that, at some point, you did want to see those buffers. Since all these approaches are easy to implement it is really up to us which we want. Any thoughts? Mark > > Of course those buffers would accumulate, along with show, search and > pick buffers... > > Or we could push this as is, and add some debugging facility later like > a variable notmuch-view-errors-buffer. > > d