Return-Path: X-Original-To: notmuch@notmuchmail.org Delivered-To: notmuch@notmuchmail.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by olra.theworths.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09990429E54 for ; Sun, 22 Jan 2012 14:53:49 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at olra.theworths.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.29 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.29 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, T_MIME_NO_TEXT=0.01] autolearn=disabled Received: from olra.theworths.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (olra.theworths.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id KxMXuGp68wQm for ; Sun, 22 Jan 2012 14:53:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from outgoing-mail.its.caltech.edu (outgoing-mail.its.caltech.edu [131.215.239.19]) by olra.theworths.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E86B429E40 for ; Sun, 22 Jan 2012 14:53:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from fire-doxen.imss.caltech.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fire-doxen-postvirus (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19D1B328005; Sun, 22 Jan 2012 14:53:48 -0800 (PST) X-Spam-Scanned: at Caltech-IMSS on fire-doxen by amavisd-new Received: from finestructure.net (cpe-76-174-137-84.socal.res.rr.com [76.174.137.84]) (Authenticated sender: jrollins) by fire-doxen-submit (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D3272E50B6E; Sun, 22 Jan 2012 14:53:43 -0800 (PST) Received: by finestructure.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 57DD1AF4; Sun, 22 Jan 2012 14:53:43 -0800 (PST) From: Jameson Graef Rollins To: Xavier Maillard , Pieter Praet , Austin Clements Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/4] config: only set search.exclude_tags to "deleted; spam; " during setup In-Reply-To: References: <1326586654-16840-3-git-send-email-amdragon@mit.edu> <1327000744-25463-1-git-send-email-pieter@praet.org> <1327000744-25463-4-git-send-email-pieter@praet.org> User-Agent: Notmuch/0.11+100~gc4f1bfe (http://notmuchmail.org) Emacs/23.3.1 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2012 14:53:41 -0800 Message-ID: <874nvnqrgq.fsf@servo.finestructure.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Cc: Notmuch Mail X-BeenThere: notmuch@notmuchmail.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "Use and development of the notmuch mail system." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2012 22:53:49 -0000 --=-=-= Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, 22 Jan 2012 23:14:13 +0100, Xavier Maillard wr= ote: >=20 > On Thu, 19 Jan 2012 20:19:03 +0100, Pieter Praet wrote: > > If the 'search.exclude_tags' option is missing from the config file, > > its value is automatically set to "deleted;spam;". Taking PoLS/DWIM > > into account, this should probably only happen during setup. > >=20 > > This patch is actually Austin Clements' work: > > id:"20120117203211.GQ16740@mit.edu" >=20 > I do not think this is a sane default. As I told it in another post. I > do not expect notmuch to skew my search queries not that I specifically > asked. Hi, Xavier. Do you currently mark things as "deleted" or "spam"? If not, this would have no affect on your search results. If you do, do you currently expect those messages to show up in searches? If so, why did you mark them as "deleted" or "spam" to begin with? I agree with your point in principle (ie. I don't generally want my searches tampered with behind the scenes) but the issue here is about messages that have been explicitly tagged as a form of "trash". Trash is by it's nature something you're trying to get rid of. If you wanted to find something in the future, why would you put it in the trash in the first place? jamie. --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJPHJN1AAoJEO00zqvie6q8+LoP/idPohcAv50xZkD/kEk5/Hz2 d1WbyjFabcvg5pXdmIqm2iBVAfCDBGbDQsEMf+Lm3gRvnCwRJBKATjygMNOnj88k Eb6tXxfIF7RkGF39uEclTHL13NUqAK8S8e+H3v5WfY5+Z9uyx5eSzDvLnLbCHRKp hrVS7CtWf0Y74lTz3qVcMY6oOw7J+/AmPH2py2yXsPm8P5eO5Gbdi9Star2lV6Gq y4zM//q7NCY8oSJRVTJMOAYRtw5VjmVa6iC5vsnKiAEgkedxCXtpYFjfy3ZooCy6 vN2tDSdW2SeLkl2sS4VQS0gmULSAvUcy5iensV2c2k3tdE2SN8P+hawy/reOzSzx KQf7WIxyZbRIpFakYrSJbyRgCFRZo8MjJv9eIiCNzn0GOQfBoCffkZVTWqUgizwU Y+i2ON9EZr5XSEpuQGrSV25PsZonjhin1eMmxDYk8TIjeEZW8nk5KMBv+6ODgsB1 u4hSUS/l21AN0d2TWScWNI7yxscjCcMLJ9HB2PEAJYiSJV2s46Mei/jwEdODtLr2 9yqWh7zcQD+Nl8ixk8fheGm0NqoX/8FOZ+cmbwo1FaTh3szkpwAiI8wRhjUsRlnf cHzaDbe2NSamfO5U/mC+8bjxd4pdpUW9EZATTu8XEeEJWv8ZVnHD9EMMDmCpgnQ0 24082S0mUKM1Xt7Xw+RN =f5CD -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=--